A conversation with Andrew Haley Barbour About Rice writer and journalist of national kill, the prospects for an interview about the race.
Josh Benson: For purposes of this exercise, we will comment on our civil rights Haley Barbour's and against racial segregation in isolation. What is the sign for you?
Andrew Rice: You said something different for me than it did on others who did not want to grow in the South, I think. Take separate the two controversial statements.
Andrew: First Place: ".. I do not remember, like" What I often heard growing up in South Carolina, the people, the generation of Barbour: "Of course there were problems, but here were people,. Indeed I played fellah with a black baseball. "I was not there, so it's not for me to say definitely, but I think it is to say pretty sure that it resembles a gap between blacks and whites of this generation the experience of segregation.
Josh: It does not seem excessive.
Andrew: And there's something new. If you read the authors of the South in the 1930s, for example, there is an issue that idealizes life before the war in the same line. It reads like a dangerous nonsense for us today, and yet was so widespread a feeling as foggy memories of the old Barbour of Yazoo City.
Andrew: The fact is that this feeling does not make you racist. Only makes sentimental. We all tend to the edges of our memory as we age to soften. The question of Citizens Advice, on the contrary, I think it will continue.
Josh: Why?
Andrew: Well, for me it is a problem of general and specific. It is impossible for everyone, Haley Barbour, the memories of his youth challenge. Are your memories. It is fair to remember the decade of 1960, Yazoo with love if you like. The CCC is a membership organization that had taken took minutes, statements, and created a paper trail that journalists can and do when Barbour chooses for president. It is quite easy to check whether the local chapter of the organization, in fact, both a force for good and said Barbour.
Josh: OK, again, the processing of his interview with the Weekly Standard by itself: There is no precedent for this. Trent Lott is no ambiguity about his relationship with CCC, always. Much has changed since it writtenabout, and why it should be a concern for Americans who do not share the view that the world organization. But I think in the end it was too dark something resonates with something like the scale that disqualified Lott would be a national figure.
Josh Lott was not forced to leave the lead up to it, how wonderful it would be good if the person elected President comments. As we know, this guy an ardent segregationist at the time was to Lott. Lott and his supporters later claimed it was an attempt to secure the honor politeness.
Josh: So. It is a little different. Lott was not a candidate for the presidency, as Barbour is (was?), Think about it. But why is C.C.C. which means now?
Andrew: For several reasons:
1) Lott faced two groups: the voters in Mississippi who have not found clear associations by their disqualification, and the Senate Republican Caucus, a group of about 50 people. The presidential elections, even in elementary school, where too much more to convince people that what their suitability for national office. This brings us to:
2) The sound on a problem that a bid Barbour sees it this way will face, can speak a caricature of a politician in the Deep South won. He must be from the past more than, say, Bobby Jindal is doing, distance, because the existence of Jindal as a political figure is a simple refutation of the stereotypes that affect the south.
Andrew: All types of self-evident. But I think the Republican primary voters a few candidates for the South, including Mike Huckabee, who has always been worth it, made all the right notes for racial unity. All is not so difficult, really. What makes Barbour comments on the Weekly Standard, the more surprising.
Josh: OK, thanks. Is not this whole issue of Barbour, who is a politician, not a word in its place? Lobbying is not the conviction and the more efficient and more beautiful world? may seem as if a man so little self-confidence to say these things? Without doubt, the fact is that he is not the same license to race as Bobby Jindal has not lost on him.
Andrew: There are a few ways. It may be that it is not a candidate for the presidency. This seems to be the consensus of a Mississippi couple, the dinner went last night. Of course, if not run, I'm sure this is not part of the plan, to say the bubble Barbour things, for a conservative magazine, that some considered racially insensitive bleed. I think it goes back to what I said at the beginning. I'm not sure he sees an instinctive level, as something shameful. The point of the story is part of the Yazoo City was found that in spite of the obstacles, broken free of violence and Barbour can feel proud of him. Southerners often invoke the word "Boston" in this context.
Andrew: That is, I think it is an indicator that Barbour can not be president. The thing is, has made his generation of Republican south a pact with the devil. They used the struggle for segregation realignment of the South, but she lost her ability to perform their national duties. The President of the immunized south side will be the last, George Bush, a conservative who has been against this problem due to have been too young to fight in the battle, and the legacy of the Vietnam disappeared completely from the policy debate once Obama arrived at the scene.
Andrew: Of course this does not mean that race seems to be completely removed from the equation of George Allen's atwhat or to a lesser extent, Bob McDonnell, but his injuries were self inflicted. People like Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal and Eric Cantor are the politicians in the South, not the politicians in the south.
Josh: Yes. Well, that refers to the original premise is that this criticism quite different in the gap, what do in this broader context. Certainly saw neither the author nor the publisher of the Weekly Standard piece, the comments as problematic or particularly interesting in itself. They were used as an indication of what the answer would inevitably Barbour over time and the place where he grew up are presented.
Josh: The game immediately Barbour suggested that the lobby would be a bigger problem for him than anything to do with race, and contain a type of prophylactic intervention forces, by unidentified members of the liberal media establishment dedicated bypass media "It could be a problem, particularly for political journalists in Washington, moralizing about race and public education, want their children to school, Sidwell Friends as progressive and St. Albans, where candidates are carefully selected and controlled color discreetly their numbers. "
Josh: But of course not Barbour made the comments in a vacuum. Ben Smith noted, for example, an age at which the report was observed Barbour jokes about watermelon.
interesting historical note that "watermelon" piece, which Ben describes as "almost with contempt" of the sound: Andrew. Source: Howell Raines.
Andrew. I think if you really wanted to defend Barbour, and since then, "I can not point the joke was defined not quoted directly, and it looked like a replica to a colleague racist, but yes, that s not the most important point, that racism Barbour fight against intolerance absolute fun. and I will say there is no excuse that racist attitudes have changed in the south since 1980. But it goes back to my point is the main thing that I think it would be difficult for any Republicans in the South was in the scene since 1980 with a search for the presidential primaries without recourse to an incident that at least some evidence to race, and that segregation was the main initiator of the initial growth of the game.
Josh: Well, I do not Barbour disqualification if change what it is, necessarily since 2012 the Republican primary field, the image considerably. Not if you were, and it was not too strong a presence at the national level.
Josh: But what does this mean for the Republican presidential candidate prospects mean in general? Is it blue-state Republicans Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal in the future, Barbour generation from public life in their old age?
Andrew: Well, I think the problem take care of him very soon. Barbour in 2012 will be 65 on election day, and as Ben points, it's a bit young to be the generation that groups the active integration in the opposition. Therefore, the man on the border between the retirement age. I think it means that, by the year 2016, this new generation will be the majority. They are held less responsible for the original sin of the Southern GOP And sooner or later disappear, we wait for the issue of race. After all, he holds against the Democratic Party, founded largely on the promise of Andrew Jackson for removing the Indians from their land?
Josh Benson: For purposes of this exercise, we will comment on our civil rights Haley Barbour's and against racial segregation in isolation. What is the sign for you?
Andrew Rice: You said something different for me than it did on others who did not want to grow in the South, I think. Take separate the two controversial statements.
Andrew: First Place: ".. I do not remember, like" What I often heard growing up in South Carolina, the people, the generation of Barbour: "Of course there were problems, but here were people,. Indeed I played fellah with a black baseball. "I was not there, so it's not for me to say definitely, but I think it is to say pretty sure that it resembles a gap between blacks and whites of this generation the experience of segregation.
Josh: It does not seem excessive.
Andrew: And there's something new. If you read the authors of the South in the 1930s, for example, there is an issue that idealizes life before the war in the same line. It reads like a dangerous nonsense for us today, and yet was so widespread a feeling as foggy memories of the old Barbour of Yazoo City.
Andrew: The fact is that this feeling does not make you racist. Only makes sentimental. We all tend to the edges of our memory as we age to soften. The question of Citizens Advice, on the contrary, I think it will continue.
Josh: Why?
Andrew: Well, for me it is a problem of general and specific. It is impossible for everyone, Haley Barbour, the memories of his youth challenge. Are your memories. It is fair to remember the decade of 1960, Yazoo with love if you like. The CCC is a membership organization that had taken took minutes, statements, and created a paper trail that journalists can and do when Barbour chooses for president. It is quite easy to check whether the local chapter of the organization, in fact, both a force for good and said Barbour.
Josh: OK, again, the processing of his interview with the Weekly Standard by itself: There is no precedent for this. Trent Lott is no ambiguity about his relationship with CCC, always. Much has changed since it writtenabout, and why it should be a concern for Americans who do not share the view that the world organization. But I think in the end it was too dark something resonates with something like the scale that disqualified Lott would be a national figure.
Josh Lott was not forced to leave the lead up to it, how wonderful it would be good if the person elected President comments. As we know, this guy an ardent segregationist at the time was to Lott. Lott and his supporters later claimed it was an attempt to secure the honor politeness.
Josh: So. It is a little different. Lott was not a candidate for the presidency, as Barbour is (was?), Think about it. But why is C.C.C. which means now?
Andrew: For several reasons:
1) Lott faced two groups: the voters in Mississippi who have not found clear associations by their disqualification, and the Senate Republican Caucus, a group of about 50 people. The presidential elections, even in elementary school, where too much more to convince people that what their suitability for national office. This brings us to:
2) The sound on a problem that a bid Barbour sees it this way will face, can speak a caricature of a politician in the Deep South won. He must be from the past more than, say, Bobby Jindal is doing, distance, because the existence of Jindal as a political figure is a simple refutation of the stereotypes that affect the south.
Andrew: All types of self-evident. But I think the Republican primary voters a few candidates for the South, including Mike Huckabee, who has always been worth it, made all the right notes for racial unity. All is not so difficult, really. What makes Barbour comments on the Weekly Standard, the more surprising.
Josh: OK, thanks. Is not this whole issue of Barbour, who is a politician, not a word in its place? Lobbying is not the conviction and the more efficient and more beautiful world? may seem as if a man so little self-confidence to say these things? Without doubt, the fact is that he is not the same license to race as Bobby Jindal has not lost on him.
Andrew: There are a few ways. It may be that it is not a candidate for the presidency. This seems to be the consensus of a Mississippi couple, the dinner went last night. Of course, if not run, I'm sure this is not part of the plan, to say the bubble Barbour things, for a conservative magazine, that some considered racially insensitive bleed. I think it goes back to what I said at the beginning. I'm not sure he sees an instinctive level, as something shameful. The point of the story is part of the Yazoo City was found that in spite of the obstacles, broken free of violence and Barbour can feel proud of him. Southerners often invoke the word "Boston" in this context.
Andrew: That is, I think it is an indicator that Barbour can not be president. The thing is, has made his generation of Republican south a pact with the devil. They used the struggle for segregation realignment of the South, but she lost her ability to perform their national duties. The President of the immunized south side will be the last, George Bush, a conservative who has been against this problem due to have been too young to fight in the battle, and the legacy of the Vietnam disappeared completely from the policy debate once Obama arrived at the scene.
Andrew: Of course this does not mean that race seems to be completely removed from the equation of George Allen's atwhat or to a lesser extent, Bob McDonnell, but his injuries were self inflicted. People like Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal and Eric Cantor are the politicians in the South, not the politicians in the south.
Josh: Yes. Well, that refers to the original premise is that this criticism quite different in the gap, what do in this broader context. Certainly saw neither the author nor the publisher of the Weekly Standard piece, the comments as problematic or particularly interesting in itself. They were used as an indication of what the answer would inevitably Barbour over time and the place where he grew up are presented.
Josh: The game immediately Barbour suggested that the lobby would be a bigger problem for him than anything to do with race, and contain a type of prophylactic intervention forces, by unidentified members of the liberal media establishment dedicated bypass media "It could be a problem, particularly for political journalists in Washington, moralizing about race and public education, want their children to school, Sidwell Friends as progressive and St. Albans, where candidates are carefully selected and controlled color discreetly their numbers. "
Josh: But of course not Barbour made the comments in a vacuum. Ben Smith noted, for example, an age at which the report was observed Barbour jokes about watermelon.
interesting historical note that "watermelon" piece, which Ben describes as "almost with contempt" of the sound: Andrew. Source: Howell Raines.
Andrew. I think if you really wanted to defend Barbour, and since then, "I can not point the joke was defined not quoted directly, and it looked like a replica to a colleague racist, but yes, that s not the most important point, that racism Barbour fight against intolerance absolute fun. and I will say there is no excuse that racist attitudes have changed in the south since 1980. But it goes back to my point is the main thing that I think it would be difficult for any Republicans in the South was in the scene since 1980 with a search for the presidential primaries without recourse to an incident that at least some evidence to race, and that segregation was the main initiator of the initial growth of the game.
Josh: Well, I do not Barbour disqualification if change what it is, necessarily since 2012 the Republican primary field, the image considerably. Not if you were, and it was not too strong a presence at the national level.
Josh: But what does this mean for the Republican presidential candidate prospects mean in general? Is it blue-state Republicans Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal in the future, Barbour generation from public life in their old age?
Andrew: Well, I think the problem take care of him very soon. Barbour in 2012 will be 65 on election day, and as Ben points, it's a bit young to be the generation that groups the active integration in the opposition. Therefore, the man on the border between the retirement age. I think it means that, by the year 2016, this new generation will be the majority. They are held less responsible for the original sin of the Southern GOP And sooner or later disappear, we wait for the issue of race. After all, he holds against the Democratic Party, founded largely on the promise of Andrew Jackson for removing the Indians from their land?
